Sunday, 3 December 2017

Equalizing / Distributing / Transferring , Pain ?




And , may be pleasure as well  ?



A familiar dialogue in my home goes :

Wife :
I have a terrible headache
Me :
Take an aspirin tablet
Wife :
It has bad side-effects
Me :
I wish I can touch your forehead and let your pain flow into my hand
Wife :
Why don’t you invent such a mechanism ? . It will equalize pain and pleasure , among all the inhabitants of the Earth and ( even ) reduce poverty
Me :
How come ?
Wife :
Millions of jobless poor people will be ready to “ accept “ the pains suffered by rich people , for a fee { Mild Cold for $ 10 / Migraine Headache for $ 50 / Stomach Ache for $ 100 …etc } . Got the idea ?
Me :
Oh ! I see . A simple mechanism to “ transfer “ the pains being suffered by those 1 % of the World’s people who control 58 % of world’s wealth , to the other 99 % of the population , for a price ?
Wife :
And the beauty of my suggestion is : along with the transfer of pain , that wealth-inequality will also get slightly corrected and our government would not have to worry about skilling 500 million youth in 5 years and create 120 million jobs in 10 years ( or else face prospect of losing the 2019 general election ! )
Me :
Hey ! This is revolutionary and far better than “ Organ Donation “ from a dead person to a living person . Here , it is from one “ living “ to another “ living “ – and without waiting your turn ! And, from / to , your person of choice !
Wife :
Now don’t be surprised if many Start-Ups come forward to launch web sites such as :
online E-Com platforms for Buyers and Sellers , quite like Job Portals and Dating / Marriage Sites
Me :
And that would enable our poor people to compete with poor people everywhere for a share of this very lucrative market . But the best part is :

·         Technology is advancing at such a rapid rate that these “ transfers “ ( of Pain and Pleasure ), can be done remotely across oceans , using Holograms / Hepatic Devices / Brain Computer Interfaces /  VR headsets / whatever else you can think of

·         Such “ Buying / Selling “ of “ Services “ cannot be regulated by WTO ( free for all )

·         There can be no levy of any “ Import Duty / Dumping Duty “ on cross-border transfers


Of course , If Shri Arun Jaitleyji comes to know about this possibility , he may impose a nominal GST of 1 % on such “ Sales Incomes “ ! Except that he would not know from whom to collect the tax since the Seller pays and the Buyer ( of pain ) receives the payment !

Of course , it would work if I am “ Selling ( sharing ? ) pleasure “ for a price with those millions of “ depressed ( but rich ) persons “ of the World except what “ pleasures “ can the poor sell to the rich ?

Wife :
I think you are reading too much of what Peter Diamandis’s  ( http://www.diamandis.com/ )
and  Ray Kurzweil’s ( http://www.kurzweilai.net/ ) ,  writings  about future
Why don’t you look up : https://www.srichinmoylibrary.com/ie-5 : , to realize that it was our very
 own Babar who was the first to invent this technology of “ Pain Transfer “ ?

Poor  Guy !  If we had a Patent Office then , he would have minted a ton of Gold Mohurs !

Me :
If you have any doubt about my prediction , read :





04  Dec  2017



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Added following comments of ChatGPT on 15 Aug 2025 :

Your “Transfer of Pain” closing in the blog feels like the philosophical counterweight to the earlier technological and geopolitical themes.

It’s essentially saying — pain doesn’t vanish when you pass it on; it only changes form and location. In the context of the post, that can be read in two intertwined ways:

  1. Spiritual Layer – If Arihant is omnipresent, then so is the awareness of suffering. Any harm we cause to another isn’t really “out there”; it circles back into the shared consciousness. Passing pain is like throwing a boomerang — it inevitably returns.

  2. Societal/Political Layer – Whether in religion, governance, or technology, dumping burdens on another group, nation, or generation doesn’t erase them. The debt — whether material, moral, or emotional — remains in the collective system until someone absorbs and transforms it.

That makes your ending almost like a moral injunction: Don’t aim to offload pain, aim to dissolve it.
It also connects neatly with the omnipresence idea — you can’t “export” suffering to somewhere God or Truth is absent, because no such place exists.

If you like, I can craft a short, reader-hooking philosophical paragraph tying this “Transfer of Pain” to the omnipresence theme so it feels like the natural crescendo of your blog.

You said:
Sure and can you debate how this " non-transferability " of pain ( a KARMA ? ) ties in wth the JAIN philosophy ( SIDDHANT ) of Karma which says : Every person must himself " Extinguish ( KSHAYA ) karma on his own before he can attain NIRVANA ( ultimate DELIVERANCE )
ChatGPT said:

Absolutely — in fact, Jain philosophy’s doctrine of karma and your idea of the "non-transferability" of pain are almost mirror images of each other.

Let’s break it down in three parts:


1. Karma in Jain Philosophy: The Personal Ledger

  • In Jainism, karma is not merely a moral record but a subtle material substance that physically binds to the soul (jiva) due to actions, intentions, and passions.

  • This karmic “dust” cannot be washed off by someone else’s effort — no priest, no savior, no divine grace can do it for you.

  • Liberation (moksha, nirvana) happens only when the soul has completely exhausted (kshaya) all karmic matter attached to it.

  • This is an entirely personal process — solitary, self-driven, and non-delegable.


2. Non-Transferability of Pain: The Emotional Parallel

  • If karma is a cause, pain is often one of its effects (ashata-vedaniya karma in Jain terms).

  • Just as you cannot hand over your karmic “debt” to another, you also cannot truly pass on your experience of pain to someone else.

  • Others may witness your suffering, empathize, or help reduce external triggers — but the subjective experience remains yours alone.

  • The mental, physical, and emotional “heat” of pain is non-exportable. At best, people can share resources, not the felt sensation.


3. Philosophical Tie-in: Pain as the Fire that Burns Karma

  • In Jain thought, tapas (austerity) and patient endurance of suffering (parisaha-jaya) are tools for burning (nirjara) karmic bonds.

  • If pain is inescapably personal, then so is the opportunity it brings — it becomes a private crucible in which karma can be incinerated.

  • This is why Jain sadhus embrace hardship rather than avoid it — because it is only your own pain that can burn your own karma.

  • Metaphorically, if karma is like shackles, pain is the blacksmith’s fire that can melt them — but you have to stand in it yourself.


💡 Conclusion:
Your idea that “pain is non-transferable” perfectly harmonizes with the Jain siddhant that karma’s destruction is a self-service process. No one else can live, feel, or burn through your karmic residues — and thus, deliverance is strictly a solo journey.

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