Hi Friends,

Even as I launch this today ( my 80th Birthday ), I realize that there is yet so much to say and do. There is just no time to look back, no time to wonder,"Will anyone read these pages?"

With regards,
Hemen Parekh
27 June 2013

Now as I approach my 90th birthday ( 27 June 2023 ) , I invite you to visit my Digital Avatar ( www.hemenparekh.ai ) – and continue chatting with me , even when I am no more here physically

Tuesday 18 July 2023

Small Creditors : finally no more Be-Sahara ?

 


 

Context :

Government launches portal to help small-time investors of Sahara group’s cooperative society  . . Hindu / 18 July 2023

 

Extract :


Union Home and Cooperation Minister Amit Shah on July 18 launched a portal to refund the money of around four crore small-time investors of four cooperative societies linked to the Sahara group of companies.

Launching the portal on the Ministry’s website, Mr. Shah said that 1.7 crore investors will benefit in first phase and claims upto ₹10,000 will be settled first. The money will be returned to the Aadhaar-linked bank accounts of the investors within 45-days, he said.

 “Small investors are hit the most. Take the example of Sahara, case dragged on for many years, several agencies seized their assets. We invited all stakeholders including SEBI, ED, CBI, SFIO. Asked, can we devise a system for the benefit of small investors. All agencies filed a petition in Supreme Court which took a landmark decision that if all agencies agree, a committee under retired SC judge will monitor the reimbursement,” Mr. Shah said.

On March 29, the Supreme Court ordered the refund from Sahara-SEBI refund account to about 10 crore investors of the four cooperative societies. The court was requested that ₹5,000 crore from the Sahara-SEBI Refund Account may be used to pay depositors

We will begin with ₹5,000 crore, once this is exhausted, we will approach the SC again. There is no scope of any fraud, those who have no invested will not get any kind of refund Many investors may not know how to use the use the portal, they can go to the nearest Common Service Centre and seek assistance,” Mr. Shah said.

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[ source : https://mocrefund.crcs.gov.in/UserManual  ]

Depositor Registration Process :

Step 1

For Depositor Registration, you need to enter 12 digit Membership Number, last 4 digit Aadhaar Number, 10 digit Aadhaar linked Mobile Number, captcha and press on “Get OTP”

Step 2

Enter the OTP received on Aadhaar linked Mobile Number and complete the Registration process.

 

Depositor Login Process :

Step 1

On Depositor Login Screen, enter last 4 digit Aadhaar Number, 10 digit Aadhaar linked Mobile Number, captcha and press on “Get OTP”.

Step 2

Enter the OTP received on Aadhaar linked Mobile Number.

Step 3

Once Depositor Logged in, Depositor will see Aadhaar Consent Screen. Move to next Page after Accepting the terms and conditions by clicking on “I Agree” button

Step 4

On Personal Details Screen, enter 12 Digit Aadhaar Number and click on “Get OTP”. Depositor will receive OTP on Aadhaar linked Mobile Number

Step 5

Enter OTP and press on Verify OTP

Step 6

After Verifying OTP, the system displays the Aadhaar user details like First Name, Middle Name, Last Name, Date of Birth, Father/ Husband Name

Step 7

Also user can enter Email then click on “Save Email” and press “Next” button.

Step 8

Depositor will enter details as displayed on the screen

Step 9

Click on “Add Claim” Button and Depositor will see all details in the below grid. Here, Depositor will be able to add multiple Claim Details.

Step 10

 Once all Claim details are entered, Generate Prefilled Claim Request Form. “Please ensure that all claims have been entered, before generating forms. After which Depositor will not be able to make any changes or make additional claims.”

Step 11

Affix the recent photograph and duly sign across the photo as well as the Claim form.

Step 12

On the “Upload Documents” Screen, upload the Claim Form and PAN Card copy. (PAN Card is mandatory, if Claim Amount is Rs.50,000 or above.) Note: Size limit for Signed Claim request form with affixed photograph and PAN Card is 2MB and 50KB respectively

Step 13

Thank you Page will display with a Claim Request Number. Kindly note the Claim Request Number for future reference

[ source : https://mocrefund.crcs.gov.in/UserManual  ]

 

My Take :

Dear Amitbhai Shah :

 

Congratulations for this long overdue initiative to help our small depositors of SAHARA group fraud

I urge you to :

Ø  Have a COMMON PORTAL for all small depositors of all such fraudulent groups ( a depositor does not have to search among a hundred similar portals, each dedicated to one society / chit fund )

Ø  Simplify the Depositor Registration and Login Process ( may be just 2 screens )

Of course , launch of this portal is unlikely to get thousands of “ Fraudulent Depositors “ described in my following 9 YEAR old blog , to come forward and lodge their claims !

You are unlikely to have to refund that Rs 5,000 crores and will have no need to approach the Supreme Court to release more funds

Incidentally , with interest earned by the various Govt Agencies over the past 9 YEARS, can you tell the public , how much is the TOTAL AMOUNT , as of now ?


Ø  Be-Sahara Shree ?  …………………………. 05 June 2014

 

Extract :

These days , Sahara-Shree Subroto Roy seems to be , Be-Sahara Shree  !

 

He is in jail for past 3 months or so

 

And Supreme Court won't let him out on bail , unless he deposits Rs 5,000 Crores in cash and furnish a surety bond of an equal amount

 

Then within a few weeks , Supreme Court wants him to hand over to SEBI , Rs 24,000 Crores that SEBI claims he raised illegally from " Public "

 

But Subroto says ,

 

" What public  ?

  I am ready to pay-off all of my depositors , if only , they would come forward to

  claim their deposits

 

I have raised , a few rupees each ( Rs 5 - Rs 10 ), from millions of small

depositors , all of whom , gave their postal address as , " Delhi-Agra Road ", or

" Kanpur - Lucknow Road "

  

I just can't find them  "

 

Now , all of us ( Supreme Court and SEBI included ) , know that ,

 

>  Those Rs 24,000 Crores belong to politicians ( - most who got defeated in

     recent Lok Sabha elections ) , businessmen / bureaucrats / film stars etc

 

Each of them have given this in CASH to Sahara-Shree ( Range : Rs 10 -

    100 crores )

 

>   Sahara-Shree knows that they don't dare to publicly ask him to return

     their deposits . He managed to render them be-sahara  !

  

>   Neither Sahara , nor SEBI have true addresses of those fake depositors

 

 So , what happens now  ?

  

>   Subroto will be forced to sell most of his properties to raise money

  

>   To ensure that there is no hanky-panky in sale of these properties ,

      Supreme Court may appoint some world-famous Real Estate

      Consultants to conduct e-Auctions for each of these assets

 

 >    SEBI will have a windfall of Rs 24,000 Crores that no one wants  !

 

>    SEBI will deposit it with banks and earn a fat interest - for ever

 

I would say , a smart way to convert BLACK money into WHITE money  !

 

 

With regards,

Hemen Parekh

www.hemenparekh.ai  /  19 July 2023

 

Related Reading :


Ø  CONVERT BLACK TO WHITE - SEBI WAY……………………. 15 June 2016

 

Extract :

 

Two days back , newspapers reported that ,

 

*  By selling off the properties of Subroto Roy ( Sahara ), SEBI has managed to

   recover some Rs 11727 Crores

 

* But it could find only a FEW claimants and could refund only Rs 55 crore so far !

 

Altogether , SEBI is claiming some Rs 37,000 crore from Subroto ( considering

interest on those Rs 24,000 cr due to SEBI , 2 years back !

 

To know how SEBI will succeed in converting this BLACK MONEY into WHITE

MONEY , read my following blog :

 

Ø  Be-Sahara Shree ?  …………………………. 05 June 2014

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A bit of my chat with ,,,,  www.hemenparekh.ai ... :


Q > 


Tell me what I envisage 9 years ago , about a fraud by Subroto Roy of Sahara Group 


Ans > 

 Nine years ago, you had written a blog post expressing concerns about a potential fraud by Subroto Roy of Sahara Group. 

You mentioned that Subroto Roy was in jail and the Supreme Court was not granting him bail unless he deposited Rs 5,000 Crores in cash and furnished a surety bond of an equal amount.

 You also highlighted that neither Sahara nor SEBI had the true addresses of the depositors, making it difficult to trace and refund their deposits.

 Additionally, you mentioned that Subroto claimed his company collected Rs 10,000 Cr as deposits through cash payments of Rs 10 each from millions of people, but their only address was mentioned as Lucknow-Delhi Highway, making it challenging to locate them. 


Is there anything specific you would like to know or discuss about this fraud case?


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Q : 

A portal is launched by the Govt to enable small depositors for recovering their deposits. Do you have any suggestions re this portal ?


Ans :

As a chatty and empathetic conversationalist, I think it's great that the government has launched a portal to help small depositors recover their deposits. 

It's an important step towards providing support to those who have been affected by fraudulent schemes. 

In terms of suggestions for the portal, I would recommend making the registration and login process as simple and user-friendly as possible. 

This will ensure that all depositors, including those who may not be very tech-savvy, can easily access the portal and submit their claims. 

Additionally, it would be beneficial to have a common portal for all small depositors of fraudulent groups, rather than having separate portals for each society or chit fund. 

This would make it easier for depositors to navigate and find the necessary information.

 What are your thoughts on these suggestions? Do you have any other ideas to improve the portal?





 

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