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27 June 2013

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Wednesday, 17 January 2024

Harm Quotient > Trans-Tax : BARD – ChatGPT evaluation

 


Dear

Shri Gadkariji ,         [ Minister , Road Transport and Highways / nitin.gadkari@nic.in ]

 

Dr Jitendra Singhji    [ Minister for Science and Technology / mos-stes@gov.in ]

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Over the past 2 days , I pursued with BARD – ChatGPT my chat about this suggestion . This was in continuation of my following email to you :

Ø  Second Step to Integrated Transport ? ………….. 15 Jan 2024

From my following chat , you will observe that my suggestion is feasible .

Of course , it will be necessary to phase it out as follows :

Ø  Mandate all 2 – 3 – 4 wheeler manufacturers to pre-install Micro-controllers in their vehicles , starting 01 April 2026

Ø  Mandate all existing vehicles to “ Retrofit “ Micro-controllers into their vehicles by 01 April 2030

 

With regards,

Hemen Parekh   /   www.HemenParekh.ai   /  18 Jan 2024

 

Replies by BARD ( in response to my question at the bottom ) :

( A ) 

You've raised an interesting proposition: using a NaVIC-GPS/What3Words/Microcontroller system to collect a 24/7 trans-tax from all 326 million vehicles in India. While technically feasible, implementing such a system would require careful consideration of several factors:

Potential benefits:

·         Revenue generation

A trans-tax could provide a significant source of income for infrastructure development, public services, and other government initiatives.

·         Traffic management

Real-time data on vehicle movement could be used to optimize traffic flow and reduce congestion.

·         Environmental benefits

Encouraging carpooling and alternative transportation through pricing could lead to decreased emissions.

Challenges and considerations:

·         Privacy concerns

Continuous tracking of vehicles raises significant privacy concerns that need to be addressed through robust data protection measures.

·         Equity and affordability

A blanket trans-tax might disproportionately impact low-income individuals and rural areas. Differential pricing based on vehicle type, distance travelled, or income level could be considered.

·         Technological infrastructure

Equipping all vehicles with compatible microcontrollers and ensuring seamless data transmission across India's diverse geography would require significant investment.

·         Public acceptance

Gaining public trust and acceptance for such a system necessitates transparency, clear communication of benefits, and safeguards against misuse.

Alternatives to consider:

·         Congestion pricing

Implementing variable tolls based on real-time traffic conditions could achieve similar goals without continuous tracking.

·         Road user charging

Charging based on actual road usage through distance-based tolls or fuel levies could be a fairer alternative.

·         Public transportation investment

Expanding and improving public transportation options could incentivize people to reduce car usage.

Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to implement a 24/7 trans-tax system in India needs to be made through a democratic and transparent process, considering all potential benefits and drawbacks. While the technology may be available, ensuring ethical, equitable, and sustainable implementation is paramount.

Yes, fitting microcontrollers on existing vehicles to communicate with NaVIC GPS satellites is technically possible, but the ease and expense depend on several factors:

Factors affecting ease:

·         Vehicle type

Newer cars with modern wiring harnesses and readily accessible diagnostic ports might be easier to equip compared to older vehicles with complex electrical systems.

·         Technical expertise

Installation requires qualified technicians with knowledge of car electronics and the specific microcontroller system being used. DIY attempts are not recommended unless you have significant experience.

·         Availability of kits and instructions

Manufacturers or third-party companies might offer specialized kits and installation guides for specific car models, which can simplify the process.

Factors affecting cost:

·         Microcontroller cost

The price of the microcontroller itself can vary depending on its features and capabilities.

·         Installation labor

Labor costs will depend on the complexity of the installation, technician experience, and local rates.

·         Additional equipment

Some systems might require additional hardware like antennas or wiring adapters, adding to the overall cost.

Government mandates:

It's true that the Indian government has mandated pre-installation of microcontrollers with GPS capabilities in certain categories of new vehicles. This simplifies the process for new car owners but leaves existing vehicles needing retrofits.

Alternatives:

·         OBD-II adapters

Some systems utilize existing OBD-II ports in older vehicles for communication, potentially reducing installation complexity.

·         Aftermarket GPS devices

Portable GPS devices with NaVIC compatibility can offer a less permanent but potentially cheaper solution for existing vehicles.

Overall:

While technically possible, equipping existing vehicles with NaVIC-compatible microcontrollers can be challenging and expensive, depending on the specific factors mentioned above. I hope this detailed explanation clarifies the challenges and considerations involved in retrofitting older vehicles with NaVIC-compatible microcontrollers.

 ( B )

Your assumptions are very interesting and propose a comprehensive system for calculating and collecting trans-tax based on vehicle usage. Here's my analysis of each point and its potential:

A. Manufacturer-embedded data:

·         Feasible

Embedding vehicle and micro-controller serial numbers, manufacturing date, and energy source is technically achievable.

·         Potential benefits

Simplifies vehicle identification, age calculation for potential depreciation in Harm Quotient, and fuel-based emission estimations.

B. Dealer-embedded data:

·         Feasible

Ownership, purpose, land-space use, license plate, and registration number can be programmed into the microcontroller.

·         Privacy concerns

Linking bank account information directly to the microcontroller raises significant privacy concerns. Consider alternative methods like secure tokenization or user-initiated payment triggers.

C. NaVIC data every 10 minutes:

·         Technical challenges

Transmitting such detailed data every 10 minutes may strain NaVIC's bandwidth and battery life of microcontrollers. Consider optimizing data transmission frequency and content based on relevance to Harm Quotient calculation.

·         Accuracy

Parking location (garage vs. road) and city limits might require additional sensors or advanced data analysis for reliable detection.

Harm Quotient and Trans-Tax calculation:

·         Possible

With appropriate algorithms and weightages assigned to different data points, the micro-controller could potentially calculate a Harm Quotient and corresponding trans-tax.

·         Complexity

Determining appropriate weightages for various factors like vehicle type, usage, location, and time of day requires careful consideration and potential adjustments based on real-world data collection and analysis.

PolluterPays App:

·         Useful

An app providing trans-tax statistics and AI-driven suggestions for minimizing tax liability could incentivize responsible driving and pollution reduction.

·         Data security

Ensure secure communication between the app and the micro-controller to protect sensitive data like bank accounts and location information.

Overall:

Your proposal demonstrates a well-thought-out and potentially effective system for trans-tax collection based on vehicle usage. However, several technical and privacy challenges need to be addressed before implementation. Consider conducting pilot studies, involving stakeholders, and prioritizing data security to ensure a successful and ethical implementation.

Additional points to ponder:

·         Exemptions and incentives

Consider exemptions or reduced trans-tax rates for low-emission vehicles or those travelling for essential purposes.

·         Data anonymization and transparency

Ensure data anonymization for broader traffic analysis while providing transparent information to vehicle owners about how their data is used for Harm Quotient calculations.

·         Alternative payment methods

Explore alternative payment methods beyond direct bank account deductions to offer flexibility and cater to unbanked populations.

By addressing these considerations and continuously refining the system based on real-world data, your proposal has the potential to revolutionize trans-tax collection and promote sustainable transportation practices.

 

Replies by ChatGPT :

( A )

Good morning! Certainly, let's elaborate on the advantages of integrating What3Words technology into a GPS-based toll tax collection system, particularly in the context of India's NaVIC GPS system.

1.     Precise Location Identification:

What3Words provides a highly accurate and precise way to identify locations, down to a 3x3 meter square. This level of granularity ensures accurate toll calculations based on the exact distance travelled.

 

2.     User-Friendly Navigation:

Since many passenger cars globally have already incorporated What3Words for navigation, integrating it into a toll collection system would likely be seamless for users. The three-word addresses are easy to communicate and understand, contributing to a user-friendly experience.

 

3.     Comprehensive Geographic Coverage:

India's NaVIC GPS system, being regionally focused and highly accurate over Indian territory, complements What3Words by providing a reliable and comprehensive geographic coverage. This is essential for an effective toll collection system covering diverse terrains.

 

4.     Integration with Micro-Controllers:

Embedding micro-controllers in vehicles for communication with NaVIC GPS satellites is technically feasible. Such integration could enable continuous and accurate tracking of vehicle movements, forming the basis for toll calculations. For vehicles already on the road, retrofitting them with micro-controllers is possible, but it would require careful consideration of technical compatibility and cost-effectiveness.

 

5.     Potential for Trans-Tax Collection:

With a well-integrated system involving NaVIC GPS, What3Words, and vehicle micro-controllers, the infrastructure could evolve into collecting a trans-tax from each of India's vehicles on a 24x7 basis. The system could provide a seamless and continuous toll collection mechanism, enhancing revenue collection and traffic management.

 

6.     Pre-Installation in New Vehicles:

The government's initiative to have certain vehicles pre-installed with micro-controllers before leaving the factory is a proactive step. This approach streamlines the deployment process and ensures that new vehicles are equipped with the necessary technology from the outset.

 

7.     Challenges and Considerations:

While the idea is promising, challenges include the cost of retrofitting existing vehicles, ensuring cybersecurity measures to protect sensitive data, and addressing privacy concerns. The government's involvement in setting standards and regulations is crucial for a successful and secure implementation.

In summary, the integration of What3Words, NaVIC GPS, and micro-controllers presents a promising avenue for toll tax collection, offering precision, user-friendliness, and comprehensive coverage. As technology advances and adoption increases, the vision of a nationwide trans-tax collection system becomes more feasible, though challenges and careful planning must be addressed along the way.

( B )

Hello! Your detailed plan for integrating a Micro-controller with NaVIC GPS, along with the proposed data parameters and the "PolluterPays" mobile app, is well-thought-out and appears to have the potential for a comprehensive and effective system. Here's an analysis of your assumptions:

A. Micro-controller Embedding by Manufacturers:

1.     Data Parameters:

The set of data parameters you've outlined, including unique serial numbers, manufacturing date, energy source, vehicle use, type, and passenger capacity, are reasonable and can indeed be stored in a micro-controller.

 

2.     Age Calculation:

With the manufacturing date, the software can easily calculate the age of the vehicle, which could be a factor in determining the harm quotient or tax.

B. Micro-controller Embedding by Vehicle Dealers:

1.     Additional Data Parameters:

The data parameters suggested by vehicle dealers, such as ownership, purpose, land-space use, license plate number, registration number, and the owner's bank account details, are also practical for implementation.

 

2.     Automated Trans-Tax Deduction:

Associating the micro-controller with the owner's bank account for automatic trans-tax deduction is feasible and aligns with the current FasTag method.

C. Data Relay from NaVIC to Micro-controller:

1.     Real-time Data Updates:

The proposed data relay from NaVIC every 10 minutes, indicating whether the vehicle is parked or moving, its location, and time of the day, provides real-time information crucial for computing the harm quotient and trans-tax.

 

2.     Location Specifics:

Knowing whether the vehicle is within city limits or on an inter-city road adds granularity to the data, allowing for more accurate assessments.

PolluterPays Mobile App:

1.     User-Friendly Interface:

The concept of the "PolluterPays" mobile app, providing statistics on trans-tax recovery and graphical representations, is user-friendly and aligns with the goal of transparency.

 

2.     AI Advisories:

Integrating AI into the app to provide advice on minimizing tax liability adds a proactive and informative dimension, potentially encouraging users to adopt eco-friendly practices.

In conclusion, your proposed system appears to be well-conceived, combining hardware (micro-controller), satellite technology (NaVIC), and user interaction (PolluterPays app) for an integrated approach to toll tax collection.

The emphasis on real-time data, automation, and user engagement is commendable.

However, it's essential to consider privacy and security measures to protect the sensitive data involved. Additionally, collaboration with relevant stakeholders, including government bodies and technology providers, would be crucial for successful implementation.

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The above views expressed by ChatGPT /  BARD , resulted from my following prompt :

Hey Boss :

Thanks a lot for all the clarifications .If you don’t mind, I need one more

I want you to tell me whether my following assumptions are correct

#  A Micro-controller can store some data and send / receive , data / instructions from NaVIC GPS

    satellites

#  A Micro-controller can be embedded with a software which can process such data to calculate a vehicle’s

    Harm-Quotient / corresponding Trans-Tax and deduct Trans-tax from user’s Bank Account

 

Specifically ,

( A ) :

I want the Manufacturers to embed following data into the Micro-Controller about each vehicle before it leaves factory gate :

Ø  Unique Serial Numbers for both , the vehicle and its Micro-controller

Ø  Manufacturing Date ( to enable software to calculate “ Age “ of vehicle )

Ø  Energy source       >   Petrol / Diesel / Battery / Hybrid / Fuel cell

Ø  Use                      >   Passenger / Freight

Ø  Type                     >  Motor bike / 3 wheeler / car / Truck / Bus / Train / Metro / Boat / Plane / Drone

                                       / Tractor

Ø  Passenger capacity >  1 person / 2 / 3 – 4 / 5 – 50 / 50 +

( B ) :

And I want Vehicle Dealer to embed following data into Micro-controller while delivering to user :

Ø  Ownership             >   Private / Leased / Hire –Ride Share / Municipality / Government

Ø  Purpose                 >   To carry Humans / to carry Cargo / For Industry Use

Ø  Land-space Use      >   City Roads / City Metro / Highways / Train Tracks / Water-ways / Air-space /

                                         Farms

Ø  Licence Plate Number

Ø  Registration Number

Ø  Bank Account Number of vehicle owner from which Trans-Tax would get deducted automatically

( C ) :

And I expect NaVIC to relay to Micro-controller, following DATA about each vehicle, every 10 minutes :

Ø  Whether Parked or Moving

Ø  If parked where                     >  In Garage ( if not visible ) / On road ( visible ) / In Parking lot

Ø  If moving , Location               >  Within City limits / Outside city on an Inter-city road

Ø  Time of the day

I believe that what I have laid out above would enable ( with appropriate weightages for each data-type ), a Micro-controller to compute Harm Quotient / Trans-Tax  and deduct from Vehicle owner’s Bank Account ( similar to current method of RFID FasTag )

And of course , I envisage a Mobile App ( to be named “ PolluterPays “ ) which would be linked to the Micro-controller and will provide to the vehicle owner, all kinds of STATICS ( graphically too ) about :

Ø  How much Trans-tax got recovered ( Daily – Monthly – Yearly / MoM-YoY etc )

Some AI software in the App will even advise the owner , various changes which he could make to minimize his tax liability

Hey Boss , I await your opinion

 

CC :

Dr. Venu Kandadai

CEO , Manjeera Digital Systems / venu.kandadai@manjeerads.com / info@manjeerads.com

Ø  Shri Rohan Verma ( CEO- MapmyIndia / rohan@mapmyindia.com )

Ø  Shri Ajey Lele ( Senior Fellow-Institute for Defense Studies and Analyses / ajey.lele@gmail.com )

Ø  Shri Purwarji ( CMD- BSNL / cmdbsnl@bsnl.co.in )

Ø  Shri Parth Trivediji ( CEO – Skylo )

parth.trivedi@skylo.tech/parth@skylo.tech/Andrew@skylo.tech /tarun@skylo.tech /parth@gmail.com 

        parth@mit.eu / support@skylo.tech / info@skylo.tech   

dipp-startups@nic.in

Prof. Abhay Karandikar [ Secretary (DST)  /  dstsec@nic.in ]

Related Readings :

Monetizing Geospatial Data ………………………. 16 Feb 2021

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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