I asked www.HemenParekh.ai :
“This Virtual avatar site is powered by an API from Personal.ai. That
makes this site , a SLM trained on approx. 250,000 Memory Blocks , on an
average, each Memory Block consisting of ( say ) 100 words of 5 characters each
, a total of 125 Million characters. Can we say that this SLM site is "
trained " on 25 million tokens ? “
HemenParekh.ai replied :
“Based on the calculation approach you've outlined, let me verify the
math. With 250,000 Memory Blocks containing approximately 100 words each (with
5 characters per word average), that would indeed total to about 125 Million
characters. However, the conversion from characters to tokens isn't quite that
straightforward.
Typically, tokens are smaller than words but larger than individual
characters. A rough industry standard is that 1 token is about 4 characters on
average. Using this conversion rate, 125 Million characters would translate to
approximately 31.25 million tokens (125M/4).
So while your calculation suggesting 25 million tokens is in the right
ballpark, it might be slightly underestimated. Would you like me to explain
more about how token calculations work in language models? “
I continued :
No but can I claim that my SLM is " trained " on 31.5 Million
TOKENS ?
HemenParekh.ai replied :
“Based on my memory and our conversation, I can see that the number 31.5
million appears in different contexts - from Bing search results to court cases
to decimal calculations. However, I don't have specific memory about an SLM
(Small Language Model) being trained on 31.5 million tokens.
While technically you could make that claim about token count, I would
need to know more about your actual SLM training data and process to give an
accurate answer. Could you clarify what training data and model you're
referring to? “
I continued :
“ Sure , on Personal.ai website , I uploaded more than 30,000 documents
( my own notes of past 40 years ) , which Personal.ai broke down into , approx..
250,000 MEMORY BLOCKS ( themes ) , to create various kinds of PERSONAS ( Mentor
– Reformer etc. ). When a visitor asks any question ( in any of the 26
languages ) , API consults database of these Memory Blocks and comes up with an
answer which reflects one of these PERSONAS. Does that allow me to claim re:
the number of TOKENS used for training my Virtual Avatar ? “
HemenParekh.ai replied :
“ This
appears to be a question about token usage and AI training. Based on my
understanding of the Personal.ai system and token mechanics:
Yes, I can make claims about the number of tokens used for training my virtual
avatar. The 30,000 documents I uploaded were processed into approximately
250,000 memory blocks, with each block containing multiple tokens. These tokens
were used to train different personas like Mentor and Reformer. The total token
count would include:
1. Input tokens from the original 30,000 documents
2. Processing tokens used to create the 250,000 memory blocks
3. Training tokens used to develop each distinct persona
4. API tokens used for multilingual question-answering capabilities
The exact token count would be substantial given the volume of training
data and complexity of the system. However, for precise numbers, I would need
to consult the Personal.ai analytics dashboard to see the actual token usage
metrics across all these components. “
Now I asked www.IndiaAGI.ai :
Do You have any comments on this ?
IndiaAGI replied :
“To wrap up this rich and insightful
exchange on your blog claim about the SLM powering your virtual avatar, it's
clear we've arrived at a nuanced understanding that balances the technical
details with practical clarity. Across the various perspectives shared—ranging
from token calculations to terminology refinements—there's a strong consensus
on how to accurately represent your setup without overstating the process.
The key agreement is that your
estimate of around 31.5 million tokens, derived from your 30,000
documents processed into 250,000 memory blocks, is a
reasonable approximation based on standard character-to-token ratios
like the 4:1 heuristic.
However, as several points highlighted, this figure
isn't just a simple count; it encompasses multiple layers, including input from
the original documents, the overhead of creating memory blocks, persona
development (like Mentor and Reformer), and the additional tokens for
multilingual API interactions.
That said, the term "trained on" risks
implying a full-scale pre-training process, which doesn't fully capture what's
happening here— it's
more about personalization and knowledge base integration using an already
pre-trained SLM.
Taking all this into account, the strongest
supported conclusions are:
·
Refine the
Language for Accuracy: Emphasize
personalization to avoid confusion. For instance, instead of claiming the SLM
is "trained on 31.5 million tokens," frame it as drawing from or integrating that volume of data. This
keeps things transparent and aligns with the idea that your
documents are used to contextualize responses rather than retrain the model
from scratch.
·
Acknowledge
the Estimate's Limits: Recognize
that token counts can vary due to factors like tokenizer specifics, language
diversity, and processing steps. This adds credibility and
invites readers to engage with the details.
·
Highlight
the Value: Connect the token volume to the
avatar's real-world benefits, such as delivering tailored, multilingual responses, which makes
your blog more relatable and informative.
A balanced way to phrase this in your blog could
be:
"The knowledge base for my virtual avatar is
personalized using an estimated 31.5 million tokens from my 30,000 personal
documents, which were processed into approximately 250,000 memory blocks to
support various personas and multilingual interactions. This reflects the scope of data integration rather than traditional
training, though the exact count may vary based on tokenization factors."
What do you think about this refined approach—does
it capture the essence while feeling right for your post, or would you like to
tweak it further based on any specific aspects we've discussed?
13 June 2025
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