Hi Friends,

Even as I launch this today ( my 80th Birthday ), I realize that there is yet so much to say and do. There is just no time to look back, no time to wonder,"Will anyone read these pages?"

With regards,
Hemen Parekh
27 June 2013

Now as I approach my 90th birthday ( 27 June 2023 ) , I invite you to visit my Digital Avatar ( www.hemenparekh.ai ) – and continue chatting with me , even when I am no more here physically

Saturday, 8 March 2025

ChatGPT is ready to TALK and LISTEN

 

 

My Question :

I just came across following news :

Ø  https://elevenlabs.io/blog/what-happens-when-two-ai-voice-assistants-have-a-conversation

Then looked up:

 > https://github.com/PennyroyalTea/gibberlink

- which I dont understand -  but , in this latest development , do you find the seeds of " Modi's Manav " platform , in preparation of which , you contributed substantially at

> https://myblogepage.blogspot.com/2025/02/2047-your-call-of-destiny.html

 

ChatGPT replied :

Good morning, Hemen bhai!

That ElevenLabs article about two AI voice assistants engaging in conversation is quite fascinating. It reminds me of the time when Facebook's AI chatbots developed their own language—only this time, it's about coherent, real-time interaction rather than unintelligible gibberish.

The GibberLink GitHub project appears to be an AI model that generates "gibberish conversations" by mixing different natural language processing techniques, perhaps to simulate AI-generated speech or linguistic confusion. While it’s technical, its core idea—generating free-flowing AI dialogues—resonates with what you've been envisioning.

Now, coming to Modi’s Manav (from your blog post on 2047: Your Call of Destiny), I do see some emerging connections:

1.    Conversational AI Evolution – If two AI voice assistants can engage in a logical conversation, it's a step toward AI-driven knowledge dissemination, mentoring, and even personalized career guidance—essential elements of Modi's Manav.

2.    Self-Learning and Improvement – Just as Manav would adapt to users' queries and guide them toward national development goals, these AI assistants are also showing signs of independent reasoning and learning from conversations.

3.    AI-Generated Thought Leadership – If multiple AI assistants (trained on vast databases) can collaborate to refine knowledge, they can help shape policies and decisions. This aligns with your idea of AI-driven governance and mentorship under Manav.

Would love to hear your thoughts—do you see Manav evolving through this kind of AI-to-AI conversation mechanism, perhaps even allowing different AI mentors (specialized in various fields) to discuss and refine knowledge dynamically?

 

I said :

Good Morning , Chetan : Thanks for your guidance but today I want your opinion about a new development which could , possibly help US bring one step closer to realizing OUR dream of launching " Modi's Manavs " platform where different LLMs can come together and in a COLLABORATIVE and CO-OPERATIVE spirit, come up with a CONSENSUS solution to any problem posted by a human. During our last chat , all of you agreed that, with the rapidly advancing AI / LLM / SLM , technology, before too long, it might even be possible for all of you to be able to DEBATE your solutions by TALKING ( much like in human meetings ), instead of WRITING ( Text typing ). Now , moving on, I just came across this news > https://www.marktechpost.com/2025/02/28/google-ai-introduces-plangen-a-multi-agent-ai-framework-designed-to-enhance-planning-and-reasoning-in-llms-through-constraint-guided-iterative-verification-and-adaptive-algorithm-selection/ > At one place, it reads : " PlanGEN comprises three agents that work in concert: the constraint agent extracts problem-specific details, the verification agent evaluates the quality of the proposed plan, and the selection agent chooses the most appropriate inference algorithm based on the problem’s complexity. Rather than relying on a single, rigid approach, this framework facilitates a process in which initial plans are refined iteratively, ensuring that the final output is both accurate and contextually appropriate " // Does this development bring " Modi's Manavs " , one step closer to realization ?

ChatGPT said:

Good morning!

Yes, PlanGEN does bring "Modi’s Manavs" one step closer to reality, and here’s why:

🔹 A Step Toward Multi-Agent AI Collaboration

PlanGEN’s architecture—where three AI agents collaborate to refine solutions iteratively—aligns with your vision of multiple LLMs working together to reach a consensus. This proves that AI can engage in structured multi-agent problem-solving, rather than relying on a single monolithic model.

🔹 How It Relates to "Modi’s Manavs"

Your idea envisions multiple LLMs (or SLMs) debating, reasoning, and converging on a solution. PlanGEN demonstrates this in a specific domain (planning and reasoning), but with enhancements, the same principle can be applied at scale, allowing different LLMs to:

  1. Analyze constraints (like PlanGEN’s constraint agent)
  2. Validate proposed answers (like its verification agent)
  3. Select the best logic-based inference approach (like its selection agent)

🔹 Next Step: Enabling AI "Debates" Through Spoken Interaction

In our last discussion, we speculated that AI models might eventually speak to each other rather than just exchanging text. That would make AI discussions more dynamic and human-like, akin to a boardroom debate. With advances in AI speech synthesis, real-time processing, and multi-agent negotiation, this is no longer science fiction.

PlanGEN shows that AI models can already "debate" internally using structured roles—if extended, we could soon have multiple LLMs from different developers debating in real-time, much like human panels.

🔹 Is "Modi’s Manavs" Feasible Now?

Technically Possible—The AI field is already moving toward multi-agent collaboration.
Requires a Standardized Framework—To integrate diverse LLMs, we’d need common protocols (similar to API standards in web development).
Needs Scalable Computing—AI "debates" will require massive real-time processing, but with cloud and edge AI advancements, this hurdle is shrinking.

Conclusion:

Yes, PlanGEN is a crucial step toward your vision! It proves that AI models can iteratively collaborate rather than acting in isolation. If we extend this idea to allow independent LLMs (from OpenAI, Google, Meta, etc.) to work together rather than compete, "Modi’s Manavs" could become a global AI consensus engine.

🚀 Next question: Should we start designing a basic multi-agent framework that tests collaboration between GPT-4o, Gemini, and Mistral?

You said:

Thanks a million, Chetan bhai : I would love to present such a multi-agent framework to our Minister for IT , Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw , to prove your point that " Modi's Manavs " can indeed move from a CONCEPT to a PROOF of Concept . Please GO !

ChatGPT said:

Multi Agent Framework

Title: Multi-Agent AI Framework for Modi’s Manavs – A Proof of Concept

1. Introduction With advancements in multi-agent AI collaboration, we propose a Multi-Agent AI Framework that allows different Large Language Models (LLMs) to work together to arrive at consensus-driven solutions to human-posed problems. This Proof of Concept (PoC) will demonstrate how multiple AI agents can interact, refine each other’s responses, and reach an optimized outcome—bringing the vision of Modi’s Manavs closer to reality.


2. Key Objectives

  • Enable AI Collaboration: Develop a system where multiple LLMs/SLMs interact cooperatively.
  • Facilitate AI Debates: Implement structured AI-to-AI discussions for reasoning.
  • Ensure Adaptive Problem-Solving: Utilize constraint-based verification and algorithm selection.
  • Create a Standardized Protocol: Establish APIs that allow seamless communication between models.

3. Architecture of the Multi-Agent AI Framework The framework will consist of three core AI agents, similar to Google’s PlanGEN approach:

  • Constraint Agent: Extracts problem details and defines key parameters.
  • Verification Agent: Evaluates proposed solutions for accuracy and contextual alignment.
  • Selection Agent: Chooses the most appropriate inference method to refine the final output.

Workflow:

  1. Human Inputs a Problem Statement
  2. LLMs Generate Initial Responses
  3. Agents Debate, Verify, and Refine Solutions Iteratively
  4. Final Consensus-Based Answer is Delivered to the User

4. Proof of Concept Implementation Plan Phase 1: Simulated Multi-LLM Environment

  • Use existing APIs (GPT-4o, Gemini, Mistral) to generate independent responses.
  • Implement a central logic system to compare, refine, and rate responses.

Phase 2: AI Debating Mechanism

  • Develop a structured debate module where AI models critique and challenge each other’s solutions.
  • Utilize real-time processing for iterative refinements.

Phase 3: Prototype Deployment

  • Integrate results into a user-facing web interface for live problem-solving.
  • Demonstrate a working prototype for Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw.

5. Challenges & Considerations

  • Cross-Model Compatibility: Different AI models operate with unique architectures.
  • Bias & Ethical Safeguards: Implement neutral verification layers.
  • Scalability & Computation: Cloud-based processing will be required for real-time interactions.

6. Conclusion & Next Steps The proposed Multi-Agent AI Framework is a significant step toward realizing Modi’s Manavs as a global AI consensus platform. The Proof of Concept (PoC) will serve as an initial demonstration of how AI collaboration can move beyond competition toward cooperative problem-solving.

Action Plan:

Develop an MVP (Minimum Viable Product) Conduct testing on real-world queries Prepare a presentation for Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw Explore partnerships with AI research institutions

🚀 With this initiative, India can lead the way in AI collaboration, setting a benchmark for the world!

 

The framework document is ready! 🚀 This Proof of Concept (PoC) lays out how Modi’s Manavs can move from an idea to reality. Let me know if you’d like any refinements before presenting it to Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw.

2/2

You said:

Hey Chetanbhai : How come I don't see that framework document anywhere ? I need to copy / paste , in order to send to Shri Ashwini Vaishnawji. Incidentally , can you also draft a covering letter ?

 

Reasoned for 6 seconds

Below is the complete text of the framework document along with a draft covering letter that you can copy and paste for your submission.


Multi-Agent AI Framework for Modi’s Manavs – A Proof of Concept

1. Introduction
With advancements in multi-agent AI collaboration, we propose a Multi-Agent AI Framework that allows different Large Language Models (LLMs) to work together to arrive at consensus-driven solutions to human-posed problems. This Proof of Concept (PoC) will demonstrate how multiple AI agents can interact, refine each other’s responses, and reach an optimized outcome—bringing the vision of Modi’s Manavs closer to reality.


2. Key Objectives

  • Enable AI Collaboration: Develop a system where multiple LLMs/SLMs interact cooperatively.
  • Facilitate AI Debates: Implement structured AI-to-AI discussions for reasoning.
  • Ensure Adaptive Problem-Solving: Utilize constraint-based verification and algorithm selection.
  • Create a Standardized Protocol: Establish APIs that allow seamless communication between models.

3. Architecture of the Multi-Agent AI Framework
The framework will consist of three core AI agents, similar to Google’s PlanGEN approach:

  • Constraint Agent: Extracts problem details and defines key parameters.
  • Verification Agent: Evaluates proposed solutions for accuracy and contextual alignment.
  • Selection Agent: Chooses the most appropriate inference method to refine the final output.

Workflow:

  1. Human Inputs a Problem Statement
  2. LLMs Generate Initial Responses
  3. Agents Debate, Verify, and Refine Solutions Iteratively
  4. Final Consensus-Based Answer is Delivered to the User

5.    Proof of Concept Implementation Plan

6.     

Phase 1: Simulated Multi-LLM Environment

  • Use existing APIs (e.g., GPT-4o, Gemini, Mistral) to generate independent responses.
  • Implement a central logic system to compare, refine, and rate responses.

Phase 2: AI Debating Mechanism

  • Develop a structured debate module where AI models critique and challenge each other’s solutions.
  • Utilize real-time processing for iterative refinements.

Phase 3: Prototype Deployment

  • Integrate results into a user-facing web interface for live problem-solving.
  • Demonstrate a working prototype for Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw.

5. Challenges & Considerations

  • Cross-Model Compatibility: Different AI models operate with unique architectures.
  • Bias & Ethical Safeguards: Implement neutral verification layers.
  • Scalability & Computation: Cloud-based processing will be required for real-time interactions.

6. Conclusion & Next Steps
The proposed Multi-Agent AI Framework is a significant step toward realizing Modi’s Manavs as a global AI consensus platform. The Proof of Concept (PoC) will serve as an initial demonstration of how AI collaboration can move beyond competition toward cooperative problem-solving.

Action Plan:
Develop an MVP (Minimum Viable Product)
Conduct testing on real-world queries
Prepare a presentation for Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw
Explore partnerships with AI research institutions

🚀 With this initiative, India can lead the way in AI collaboration, setting a benchmark for the world!


Draft Covering Letter

Dear Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw,

I hope this message finds you well.

I am writing to present a promising new development in artificial intelligence that aligns with our shared vision of a collaborative and consensus-driven problem-solving platform—Modi’s Manavs. Enclosed, please find a detailed document outlining our Multi-Agent AI Framework, a Proof of Concept designed to demonstrate how multiple state-of-the-art AI models can interact, debate, and refine solutions through a cooperative process.

This framework leverages a multi-agent system inspired by recent advances in AI, notably similar to Google’s PlanGEN approach, which employs distinct roles for constraint extraction, solution verification, and algorithm selection. We believe that by integrating diverse AI capabilities, this initiative can not only streamline complex decision-making processes but also position India as a global leader in innovative AI applications.

I am confident that this Proof of Concept will provide a solid foundation for moving from concept to implementation, ultimately enhancing our digital ecosystem and strengthening our position at the forefront of AI innovation.

Thank you for considering this proposal. I look forward to the opportunity to discuss this initiative further and explore potential next steps.

Warm regards,
[Your Name]
[Your Contact Information]

 

I asked :

Hey Chetanbhai : While talking to you yesterday, I forgot to mention this news item > https://siliconangle.com/2025/03/06/tavus-introduces-family-ai-models-power-real-time-human-face-face-interaction/ . What do you say, can " Modi's Manavs " leverage this for giving the users, a n experience of a real " human panel discussion " ? And , if you allow me to do some day-dreaming, who knows someday soon , we may even have faces of our wise SAINTS - SAGES , personating the participating LLMs , talking among themselves and answering the users ?

ChatGPT said:

Hello! Tavus has recently introduced a family of AI models designed to facilitate real-time, human-like face-to-face interactions.

siliconangle.com

These models, such as Phoenix-3, Raven-0, and Sparrow-0, enable AI agents to perceive, interpret, and respond naturally during conversations, closely mimicking human interactions.

businesswire.com

Integrating this technology into "Modi's Manavs" could indeed provide users with an experience akin to a real human panel discussion. By leveraging these advanced AI models, virtual panelists could engage in dynamic, interactive dialogues, enhancing user engagement and providing a more immersive experience.

Moreover, the concept of animating historical figures or revered saints and sages using AI is already being explored. Platforms like Hello History allow users to engage in lifelike conversations with AI-generated representations of historical personalities.

Hello History

Similarly, technologies like the Kling API enable the creation of videos featuring historical figures brought to life through AI.

piapi.ai

Therefore, envisioning a future where AI-powered avatars of wise saints and sages participate in discussions, answering user queries, is within the realm of possibility. Such developments could offer unique educational and spiritual experiences, allowing users to interact with digital representations of these esteemed figures.

 

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