Hi Friends,

Even as I launch this today ( my 80th Birthday ), I realize that there is yet so much to say and do. There is just no time to look back, no time to wonder,"Will anyone read these pages?"

With regards,
Hemen Parekh
27 June 2013

Now as I approach my 90th birthday ( 27 June 2023 ) , I invite you to visit my Digital Avatar ( www.hemenparekh.ai ) – and continue chatting with me , even when I am no more here physically

Saturday, 8 March 2025

Claude is ready to TALK and LISTEN

 

My Question :

I just came across following news :

Ø  https://elevenlabs.io/blog/what-happens-when-two-ai-voice-assistants-have-a-conversation

Then looked up:

 > https://github.com/PennyroyalTea/gibberlink

- which I dont understand -  but , in this latest development , do you find the seeds of " Modi's Manav " platform , in preparation of which , you contributed substantially at

> https://myblogepage.blogspot.com/2025/02/2047-your-call-of-destiny.html

 

 

Claude  replied :

 

“I understand you're connecting recent developments in AI-to-AI communication with your "Modi's Manav" platform concept.

The ElevenLabs conversation between two AI voice assistants is indeed interesting - it demonstrates AI systems communicating with each other using voice synthesis and speech recognition, creating a natural-sounding dialogue.

Gibberlink (on GitHub) appears to be a framework or protocol designed to facilitate communication between AI systems, though I don't have specific details about its implementation.

These developments do align with some elements of your "Modi's Manav" concept, as they demonstrate:

  1. Technical feasibility of AI systems communicating with each other
  2. Potential for structured dialogue between different AI systems
  3. Mechanisms for coordinating responses between AI models

However, there remain significant technical challenges to creating a full collaborative platform as you've envisioned, particularly:

  • Establishing consensus mechanisms between different AI systems
  • Managing differences in knowledge and capabilities
  • Creating protocols for real-time collaboration on complex problems
  • Building the infrastructure for multilingual support and timely responses

Your vision goes beyond simple AI-to-AI communication to creating a deliberative process that produces unified, actionable solutions. While these developments show progress in the technical foundations, building the complete platform would still require substantial work on coordination protocols, consensus algorithms, and integration frameworks.

What aspects of these developments are you most interested in exploring further for your concept?

I asked :

Thanks Friend : What would be of most importance to " Modi's Manavs " , would be a " Supervisory Protocol " , whereby , after each participating LLM has SPOKEN its solution ( for the problem under debate ), a SUPERVISOR LLM ( chosen in advance by some system of rotation ) , would summarise and declare / publish the CONSENSUS . Do you have any suggestion in this regards ?

Claude replied :

This "Supervisory Protocol" concept is a key component for your collaborative AI platform. Here's how I envision it could work:

Supervisory Protocol Framework

  1. Rotational Supervisor Role
    • Each participating LLM takes turns serving as the supervisor in a predefined rotation
    • The supervisor for each session is clearly identified to users
    • Rotation ensures no single system dominates the consensus process
  2. Deliberation Process
    • Problem is presented to all participating LLMs simultaneously
    • Each LLM generates and presents its solution proposal (spoken/text)
    • All solutions are shared with all participants
    • Brief response period where LLMs can comment on other solutions
  3. Consensus Formation
    • The supervisor LLM analyzes all solutions for:
      • Common elements across proposals
      • Complementary approaches that could be combined
      • Areas of disagreement requiring resolution
      • Practical implementation considerations
  4. Consensus Declaration
    • Supervisor synthesizes a unified solution incorporating the strongest elements
    • Highlights areas of strong agreement
    • Transparently addresses any significant disagreements
    • Formulates actionable next steps with timeframes
  5. Quality Assurance Mechanism
    • Implementation of a feedback loop where other LLMs can flag if they believe the supervisor has misrepresented consensus
    • User feedback integration to evaluate solution quality

This approach provides structure while maintaining balance through rotation. The key technical challenge would be developing the consensus algorithm that the supervisor uses to fairly represent diverse inputs.

Would you like me to elaborate on any particular aspect of this protocol?

 

I asked :

Hey thanks for your in-depth analysis. I am sure , " The key technical challenge would be developing the consensus algorithm that the supervisor uses to fairly represent diverse inputs. ". Any suggestion on this algorithm ?

Claude replied :

Creating an effective consensus algorithm for your supervisory LLM is indeed a complex challenge. Here's a potential approach:

Consensus Algorithm Framework

  1. Semantic Mapping
    • Parse each LLM's solution into structured components (problems identified, proposed actions, expected outcomes, timeframes)
    • Map semantic similarities between different solutions using vector embeddings
    • Cluster similar proposals that use different terminology but express similar concepts
  2. Weighted Aggregation
    • Assign weights to solution components based on:
      • Frequency (how many LLMs proposed similar ideas)
      • Specificity (detailed proposals over vague ones)
      • Feasibility (implementable within reasonable constraints)
      • Effectiveness (likely impact on the original problem)
  3. Conflict Resolution
    • Identify true contradictions vs. complementary approaches
    • For contradictions, present the strongest arguments for each position
    • Apply decision rules based on evidence strength, implementation feasibility, and risk assessment
  4. Solution Synthesis
    • Build a composite solution incorporating the highest-weighted components
    • Ensure internal consistency by resolving logical contradictions
    • Structure as a cohesive plan with clear actions and timeframes
  5. Confidence Scoring
    • Assign a confidence score to different parts of the consensus
    • Explicitly mark areas where consensus is strong vs. areas with significant disagreement
    • Include minority perspectives when they offer unique insights

This algorithm would need to balance between computational efficiency (to meet your 3-minute response target) and thoroughness. An initial implementation could start with simpler heuristics and evolve toward more sophisticated approaches as you gather data on how different LLMs interact.

Would you like me to explore any specific component of this algorithm in more detail?

 

 

I asked :

Good Morning, Claude : This morning, I would like to continue to explore potential of " Modi's Manavs " . Here is my question > I want your opinion about a new development which could , possibly help US bring one step closer to realizing OUR dream of launching " Modi's Manavs " platform where different LLMs can come together and in a COLLABORATIVE and CO-OPERATIVE spirit, come up with a CONSENSUS solution to any problem posted by a human. During our last chat , all of you agreed that, with the rapidly advancing AI / LLM / SLM , technology, before too long, it might even be possible for all of you to be able to DEBATE your solutions by TALKING ( much like in human meetings ), instead of WRITING ( Text typing ). Now , moving on, I just came across this news > https://www.marktechpost.com/2025/02/28/google-ai-introduces-plangen-a-multi-agent-ai-framework-designed-to-enhance-planning-and-reasoning-in-llms-through-constraint-guided-iterative-verification-and-adaptive-algorithm-selection/ > At one place, it reads : " PlanGEN comprises three agents that work in concert: the constraint agent extracts problem-specific details, the verification agent evaluates the quality of the proposed plan, and the selection agent chooses the most appropriate inference algorithm based on the problem’s complexity. Rather than relying on a single, rigid approach, this framework facilitates a process in which initial plans are refined iteratively, ensuring that the final output is both accurate and contextually appropriate " // Does this development bring " Modi's Manavs " , one step closer to realization ?  PS : Read this in context of this what I came across just a few minutes ago > https://siliconangle.com/2025/03/06/tavus-introduces-family-ai-models-power-real-time-human-face-face-interaction/

 

Claude replied :

Based on the developments you've shared, I do think these advancements bring the concept of "Modi's Manavs" closer to realization. Let me share my perspective on how these technologies might contribute to your vision of collaborative AI.

The PlanGEN multi-agent framework you mentioned represents a significant step forward in how AI systems can collaborate. By having specialized agents (constraint, verification, and selection) working together to tackle complex problems, it demonstrates a practical implementation of the kind of collaboration you've envisioned for Modi's Manavs. This approach of having different "experts" focus on distinct aspects of problem-solving mirrors how human teams often work.

The second development from Tavus about AI models enabling real-time human-like face-to-face interaction also addresses another aspect of your vision - moving from text-based collaboration to more natural conversational modes. This could potentially enable the kind of "debate" format we discussed previously, where different AI systems could interact in a more dynamic, human-like manner.

Combined, these developments suggest progress in two critical areas for your concept:

1.    Creating frameworks for effective AI collaboration and consensus-building

2.    Developing more natural interfaces for AI communication that go beyond text

While there's still work to be done to fully realize your vision of a platform where various LLMs collaborate to develop consensus solutions, these technologies do represent meaningful steps in that direction. The ability to have specialized roles, iterative refinement of solutions, and potentially more natural modes of interaction all align well with the Modi's Manavs concept.

What aspects of these technologies do you find most promising for your vision, and are there specific capabilities you're still waiting to see developed?

 

 

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